The truth behind SES leaders' aborted Indian pilgrimage

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Re: The truth behind SES leaders' aborted Indian pilgrimage

Postby woodgreen on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:35 pm

They say what goes around comes around........Having "conned" lots of people into joining the Schools, the SES is now facing the truth of being "conned" by the Indian mafia! The Charity link is fascinating. TheJytor Trust in England just hands over dosh to its equivalent in India, and no-one here seems to ever know where the money goes.( Apart from some brave people who through this forum ask questions). Pity the wealthy donators in the SES don't start asking questions.
And Vesudawotsisname(however you spell it) still keeps cancelling the meeting! Anyone any idea whether the School of Meditation or the Study Society has access to him? The Indian boys seem to thrive on generating competition between desperate "seekers" to keep the money flowing in! Shane Mulhall is the Treasurer of the Trust isn't he? - he must getting a bit miffed by now. I'm part Paddy but hopefully I'm not that thick. I managed to get out of the SES!!
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Re: The truth behind SES leaders' aborted Indian pilgrimage

Postby bluemoon on Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:29 am

xseeker wrote:

Breaking news.....
Donald Lambie, Shane Mulhall and Barry Steingard had flights booked to India to meet Vasudevanada
on Thursday 25th Feb 2010. The meeting was aborted with just hours to departure.
Apparently it was cancelled by Vasudevanada.


Thanks for the update xseeker.
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Re: The truth behind SES leaders' aborted Indian pilgrimage

Postby Tootsie on Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:45 am

Does anybody know if Vasudevanada gets a cut from the Meditation money? I believe it is still one weeks wages which must be a good money spinner, considering by simply googling TM mantra and looking at the 1961 mantra, you get it for nothing. I believe in the Hindu tradition you are not supposed to take money for giving someone a mantra anyway!
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Re: The truth behind SES leaders' aborted Indian pilgrimage

Postby woodgreen on Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:47 pm

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/ScannedAccounts/Ends71/0000292171_ac_20080405_e_c.pdf

The mediation money goes to the School of Meditation, who in turn make donations to somewhere in India, but their accounts are not specific. Technically the SES could say that they do not pay Vasudavenanda for the mantra, they pay the SOM - then we lose the trail.
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Re: The truth behind SES leaders' aborted Indian pilgrimage

Postby woodgreen on Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:03 pm

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Sh ... ryNumber=0

Found another charity whilst I was at it. It is for art work in Waterperry.
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Re: The truth behind SES leaders' aborted Indian pilgrimage

Postby Free on Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:52 pm

I'm told that Jaiswal tried hard to get per capita meditation "donations" (to him!) from all the Schools around the world years ago; and that this proposal was rejected with some vigour! The Jyotir Trust gambit followed shortly thereafter, and was in full operation upon the death of MacLaren.

The evident means of funneling money to Vasudevanand is the Jyotir Trust, Charity 1075831, whose financial records detail > one million pounds having been sent to the companion Jyotir Trust in India over the years of available reports. Until her death, Mrs Jaiswal was a Trustee of the Indian trust, as is/was another family member and representatives of the ashram.

The simple process recommended by SES to their inmates is to give to a pukka UK charity (the Jyotirnidhi Nyasa Trust No 1075831), duly watched over by Jaiswal family members and the impeccable J. Sinclair and S. Mulhall. These worthies then turn a blind eye as the money is sent to the similarly named Jyotir Trust in India, from which there are no reports and no accountability. Whether the monies end up as statuary for the proposed Ram temple in Ayodhya, life style support for Vasudevanand, funds for right wing religious violence, Hindu religious activities or all of the above is not entirely known (except for the recent purchase of a residence for Vasudevanand). What seems likely is that none of these funds applications would be permissible under UK charitable regulations, and that the UK Trustees actively participate in this apparent evasion.
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