woodgreen wrote:I never knew her, but she was obviously a good soul. Could I dare as a newbie ask Tom Grubb a question through this thread?
woodgreen wrote: I have spent many weeks reading all the posts on this site and I do not know if Tom's parents put him into St. Vedast and what connection his parents may or may not have had with the SES. As the site is still largely seeking some change or apology from the StJ/V/SES Schools, people may need to know why Tom was enrolled.
Yes, my parents put me into St Vedast. I’m pretty sure they were both SES members at the time. (If not, they would have been SES members before and still had sympathy for the SES and its ideas.)
woodgreen wrote:As an adult member who left ( I had no connection to the SES through my family) I feel for Tom but I do not know whether his parents had or still have any connection with the SES.
I think my parents both left the SES around the time they took me out of St Vedast. I guess they finally saw the light. I remember my father having an angry phone conversation with someone at the SES about how much time my mother was expected to spend there doing chores for them. My father is dead now and I have a kind of pact with my mother not to discuss the SES with her so it would be difficult to be more precise.
woodgreen wrote:I think I tried to join this forum some years ago - to help or be helped - but as an adult with a connection to the SES your forum declined my attempt to join.
I’m sure you weren’t declined because of any SES connections! Possibly some technical issue?
woodgreen wrote:You are all good people fighting something that is not right. I as an adult I tried to get some response from the SES because I snapped out of the place, but got zilch. So I know where Tom is coming from - but I have no sentimental or fearful family ties through the SES. I responded to the adverts for whatever reason.. your forum has discussed this, thanks.
Tom, I watched you on Channel 4 and thought, great, someone is doing something. But it has faded away again. I am not a parent - I have no children, so do not let anyone think I am an SES stooge or "apologetic".
Thank you! I’m bloody glad I did it, despite my ill-advised haircut at the time…
woodgreen wrote:What I will say. through my own research on and off for about 10 years is that the Indian connection with the SES is bad news, but they will both continue. If you need an objective - achievable or not - ( did the SMART stuff years ago) is " To Close Down the SES and it's Indian Connection".
Most of what the SES does is bad news. I’d love to see them close down voluntarily one day through lack of members because people have finally woken up to what a nasty organisation they are.