Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:03 pm
I agree with the most recent Guest, even though I oppose many things that the SES put forward.
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[/quote]Very strong statement. Is that your personal opinion or the SES' view?
Let me ask: could there be any other achievement/commitment than marriage, that entiteled people to have sex?
Misty wrote:What does marriage mean to you?
Misty wrote:Why do people get married?
a different guest wrote:Sex is part of a loving relationship - I see no need to have a signed piece of paper before I have sex with my partner.
a different guest wrote:Yes the relationship may end - but being married is not a guarantee that the relationship will last forever.
a different guest wrote:I do not consider my past relationships "baggage" as that annoyed troll does - they have been learning experiences.
Antises wrote:a different guest wrote:Sex is part of a loving relationship - I see no need to have a signed piece of paper before I have sex with my partner.
To those entering a true marriage, marriage is more than signing a document (especially if a religious ceremony is involved). You also seem to have mistaken infatuation for "a loving relationship". If it was love, then you'd get married.
Antises wrote:A few of my thoughts on sex and marriage (not SES views, but my personal views): ...
Another argument, surprisingly, is that divorce is the best thing for the children that resulted from the marriage, since children should not have to listen to arguing parents. Firstly, the problem lies in the parents' inability to control how they react to their feelings. Secondly, even so, (in my opinion) it is better that the parents remained married and maintained the semblance of a marriage for the sake of their children. In my view, if parents are not willing to do this, they do not deserve to have children!
Antises wrote:I cannot imagine the pain a child feels when he is told his parents are breaking up. It also means that the children will have substantially less faith in marriage compared to the previous generation.
mgormez wrote:Antises wrote:a different guest wrote:Sex is part of a loving relationship - I see no need to have a signed piece of paper before I have sex with my partner.
To those entering a true marriage, marriage is more than signing a document (especially if a religious ceremony is involved). You also seem to have mistaken infatuation for "a loving relationship". If it was love, then you'd get married.
This is out and outright rude. I can't believe my eyes!
mgormez wrote:Likewise, can I not imagine anyone would put a child through the pain of seeing daddy physically beat mum whenever the stress takes its toll, again, and again, and again.
Antises wrote:...it is better that the parents remained married and maintained the semblance of a marriage for the sake of their children.
mgormez wrote:As luck would have it, the children are already born in this scenario. Perhaps you'd like big fosterhomes for the 'politically incorrect' parents who rather divorce than kill each other off slowely, but that does not appeal to me.
mgormez wrote:Antises wrote:I cannot imagine the pain a child feels when he is told his parents are breaking up. It also means that the children will have substantially less faith in marriage compared to the previous generation.
Likewise, can I not imagine anyone would put a child through the pain of seeing daddy physically beat mum whenever the stress takes its toll, again, and again, and again. Of course the problem lies with the parents, I never said otherwise, but the children are as much a victim, or more so, than the assaulted parent.
mgormez wrote:You totally negate the fact that the parents can have just married too young and never got the chance trully to know each other and after a few years find they are not compatible, to the point of hating eachother's guts.
Perhaps they married because of the notion that only a marriage is "true love" -- that would be ironic, if it wasn't just sad. Regardless, the family home is not a healthy place to keep children and parents under one roof and large fosterhomes for seized kids is fine in Russia but not in the West.
I am truly shocked at your view.
the annoyed wrote:mgormez wrote:Antises wrote:a different guest wrote:Sex is part of a loving relationship - I see no need to have a signed piece of paper before I have sex with my partner.
To those entering a true marriage, marriage is more than signing a document (especially if a religious ceremony is involved). You also seem to have mistaken infatuation for "a loving relationship". If it was love, then you'd get married.
This is out and outright rude. I can't believe my eyes!
I don't see much rudness in those words, would you explain why you can't belive your eyes?
Infatuation
- A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction.
- An object of extravagant, short-lived passion.
Source: The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Infatuation
1 : to cause to be foolish : deprive of sound judgment
2 : to inspire with a foolish or extravagant love or admiration
Source: Merriam-Webster Online