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I note there are number of "new"members, yet, not many seem to be willing to share their experiences/reflexions on all the above matters- no pressure , but please feel free to join in conversation, here you are FREE to express whatever is on your mind( and in your heart!) - there must be ...

'Begging the question' was pretty apt too.

Hello Blissfully Sleeping and thanks for opening up this thread. I have just finished watching the TV program. For those who haven't seen it, it's about the “Zion Full Salvation Ministry” which operated as a pretty serious cult in Sydney over the period 1976 to 1992 and at its peak numbered about 70...

What a fool I was ... along with many other fools! Hello Ella.M.C. We all joined and stayed at the school for different reasons, but I don’t think foolishness is one. Many postings here highlight that the students in the school are for the most part very good people who are not fools. Many people c...

Exactly right. Mrs M currently instructs her classes to read a book called the Yoga Vasistha, and in the class I left there is a little discussion of it before the main act (either Mrs M herself or a senior tutor) appears. It's not much of a discussion because very few bother to read it, which perha...

Jesus was pretty tough on his disciple Peter too. For example, in Matthew 16:18, Jesus describes Peter as "upon this rock I will be build my church" yet just 5 verses later, after Peter questions why Jesus says he is to be crucified, Jesus tells him "Get thee behind me Satan, thou art...

MOTS is quite correct in saying The School = Mrs Mavro is the equation. However, Tootsie's earlier post caused me to reflect again on whether we have been a bit too harsh on poor Mrs M. After all, when MOTS first posted I did think his assessment of her was too negative. But he subsequently told me ...

With my professional psychologist "hat" on I concur 100% with everything Bonsai said. The counselling/helping professions have far too many people eager to offer judgements and advice, without doing all the listening to try to understand what is actually going on. If people ever do seek to...

Well MOTS, the ball is still sitting quietly on the other side of the net quite undisturbed. No doubt this is also the case for you. For us it is just a ball to be picked up and brought back to the net. For the senior SFSK students it is an incredibly dangerous grenade to be avoided at all costs. It...

Yours is a heartfelt question Winston, and your points are spot on. When indeed will they understand this? I suppose the answers might be many and complex, but at the risk of sounding glib, might I suggest the main reason why they don't understand is their stubborn refusal to practise what they prea...

Hello GT. It did arrive - twice! Like your posts, it was definitely worth reading twice. Thanks again for your wonderful messages which as I told you privately have been so helpful to me and I suspect others who are going through the uncertain "so I'm no longer there, now what?" phase. All...

Welcome to the discussions Getting There! I consider your contribution to be very important because I believe you have well articulated the perspective that I suspect many ex-SOPP and ex-SFSK students also share to some extent, but for whatever reason (maybe because that perspective isn't all-negati...

Hello AT. I'm not sure I have too much to add to what I said in my first post: "In the end, the inconsistencies and unacknowledged human frailties leading to unconscious attachment to power over others became too much. Also the ever-present underlying subtle fear I suspect many others also felt...

Redwing is in the position of not having any fear about these so-called "schools" and to our gratitude offers a clear perspective free from that or any other notions. The rest of us who have been slowly, slowly stewing in fear for so long with little to no awareness of it until we somehow ...

I have been an extremely interested reader of the latest posts, especially those of Man On The Street and Ella M.C.and the encouraging words of Ahamty2: You certainly learn from your experiences and become much stronger human beings for it. I have been in private correspondence with MOTS discussing ...